refunds for models shouldnt be allowed
personally i think models when they get tipped should be protected for unfair users reversing charges and they lose their tokens which they have earned fairly if the customer tried it it should be investigated first before anything in done
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Anonymous commented
/signed. taking tips out of there pockets is wrong
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Anonymous commented
i think it is unfair to the models that people give tokens to them and then asks back the tokens.
in this way people can buy tokens once and then give them to a model and then ask them back each time.
i think it is not more than fair that the models who got the tokens can keep them they are doing more then enough for the tokens. -
Anonymous commented
I think it's wrong to refund tokens from these models unjustly,If it's a recorded show yes but other wise it shouldn't be .Bottom line it's just people being cheap that want something for nothing and that's no good reason to short change these models because they deserve to be treated fairly .
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Sindel commented
@ProfessionalAssClapper regardless of the HIGHLY RANKED models which I know you referred to Angel and I, we deserve EVERY token we get, so for you to say that we shouldn't worry about token refunds, you are INCORRECT. We sit there and work just as hard as other models do, in fact even more to remain in the #1 spot. LONG hours, criticism, spam, bullshit from members, begging, demanding, rudeness… the same bullshit EVERY model has to put up with to put our bread and water on the table. So are you saying we deserve the tokens to be refunded because the site pays us out at the end of the month anyway and that we shouldn't have to worry about it? Are you saying that they should give a rat's ass about the models that bring them in the most viewers? People who barely place in the contest, and people who win the contest, we are ALL THE SAME. In the end, it doesn't matter what place you are, what matters is that XHamster refunds them regardless of us earning them fair and square. This is an issue for ALL OF THE BROADCASTERS and no one deserves to get their tokens refunded after we worked our asses off for it. Highly ranked or not, refunding our tokens is not a way to run the site and is a sure way to lose members and stop members from purchasing tokens and then want to give us their money without the site taking its cut. I’m sure xhamster wouldn’t like it if we started telling the members to not give us tokens, but send us money through paypal, then xhamster wouldn’t make shit from the members and it would be their loss for NOT paying us out of THEIR money when a member is being an asshat and decides to reverse the charges. That is not our fault, we still did our job right and then xhamster takes the funds away… for what? Be wise in what you say, this is an issue for every model on here as I’ve already said. Placing in the rankings means nothing with this issue, and we are all aware of that.
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ProfessionalAssClapper commented
Genrally stating noting that I dont get on cam as much as others. I think that the refunds are a bunch of b.s. Back in Mid -April I seen that 3 members refunded on me and when I asked about if they contacted xhamster about them getting a refund. They replied and said that they had nothing to do with tips that were refunded back to them, nor did they even get the tokens back that was tipped. I think Xhamster is docking people out of tokens. Not only that. I think people that place HIGHLY RANKED in the contests shouldnt have to worry bout token refunds. Only the people who barely win the contest should.
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st_john_green commented
My thoughts on a refund are if you tip a model you should not get a refund. They deserve every token they earn here. They should also be protected from users that reverse charges, also they should be protected from fraud and theft just like any other person who works. There are ladies that make a living here. There are other sites they could go to. They could even start their own sites and cut out the middle man completely. The ladies who go on cam put thought, effort, time, and money into their shows. It takes a lot of guts to go on cam and do what they do. They deal with a lot of crap from people here. The mental abuse they go through i do not believe most could handle it. Some of the things people say to them are degrading and horrible. These women are here to make money and have fun doing it. I believe they need to be treated with respect. They work very hard doing what they do here. This site would be nothing without them here, they make it what it is. If the refund issue is not taken care of i will follow the models i like to another site and i know i am not the only one who feels this way.
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FastPat/ Patrick Gehring commented
It says xHamster, just porn, no bullshit... Come on xham this is BULLSHIT! Stop taking earned tokens away from the Pro Models that work there asses off! A member should not be able to get a refund on tokens. If there are unusual circustances or a member received tokens fraudulently... xHam should eat that on there end NOT on the Pro Models end. Keep the Cam Pro Models happy! If it wasn't for them... I'd be spending my money following my favorite Cam Models on another x site...
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lou zee commented
These ladies put in many hours and put up with a lot of crap. They deserve everyyhing they receive. Tippers do so to get what they want, get it then want refund - ridiculous!! Be fair to them and keep them around. More results from happy employees (MODELS). No refunds unless unusual circustances!!
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Sindel commented
I highly recommend this suggestion gets posted up on ALL BROADCASTERS pages to make it aware to the members of what XHamster is doing. This is HIGHLY unfair to us. Numerous times we have received refunds for NO REASON (the members didn't even ask for them! and now their cards are blacklisted for absolutely NO REASON as well!) NOBODY likes working for free, I know I don't and especially when it has to do with me showing off my body to the world! Once a tip is given to the model there should be NO WAY it can be taken back. And if a member DOES ask for a refund, XHamster should pay us out of THEIR money to make up for the members being assholes.
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Ms K ♥ commented
How do they ask for a refund anyway.. is there a button or do they have to email the site?
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Ms K ♥ commented
I mean, I love working for the site, don't get me wrong there... but I came here to work.. not get cheated. This is wrong! I don't see how this is even possible! It's OUR room, OUR show, we do what WE want when WE want to, if you don't like it, you can leave. Most models post rules of what they DON'T do and what you can expect from their shows.. if you don't like it, find a new room.
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sweetsuzytg commented
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
wow, this is a thing that happens? that's unbelievable. i'm glad i read this before i signed up to be a model.
Love is the law, love under will.
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Anonymous commented
we as models work hard for our money...this is ridiculous not only do we only get five cents a token but now xhamster has decided to give buyers the option for a "refund" ...under what basis is the said refund given back because i personally know a few instances that i went private did as they asked and then later find i get screwed out of my time and money....utter bullshit this needs to end
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Doug commented
Agreed. There is no reason why a model should lose $$$ simply for a "client" being an ass.
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ProfessionalAssClapper commented
I had this done to me 2ce alright. I think its a bunch of bullshit how they aloud refunds for the models.
Them Token Tips are just like Tip Money for strippers. No refunds on Dancing..There shouldnt be no REFUNDS on cam shows..It messes up the accounts for us models during our pay period between the month. -
sweetgirl2cute19 commented
Even the 48-72 hour thing is stupid. This should not ne allowed 100%. If the model didn't do what she was supposed to take it up with xhamster. You can always email them. When guys make refunds with my tokens they do it immediately after they see what they tipped to see.
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sweetgirl2cute19 commented
Yeah this makes me Sooo mad. I emailed xhamster about it before and they said they lose money too but I don't work for free. Its really beginning to get old!
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TheEnforcer commented
There should be a 48-72 hour period in which the customer can request a refund only for failure of the cam host to perform something promised for the tip. After that, the tip SHOULD NOT be refundable.
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wetwetoh commented
that is so true i am new and i really dont make nothing out of the 70.00 i made in 9 week and 15 was refund it is not right i ask hamster why no reply ever so i feel like i work for free after the man got what he want but why should they care they loose nothing and i work really hard and they should have to send in id pic with holding id before they can spend anything on the site
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TrinetyGuess commented
the website needs to stop stealing from its models! FRAUD